[[FTF] Inheritor]

Im NEVER one to whine or do stupid S* on server.
Coming from 8th and being an avid player FH clans server is one of the only few original style servers left on COD4.

Now here is were I'll flex nut with an admin.
When you have 3 people spectating, and more than that calling out a "hacker" and your rocking your clan tag, freakin' do something about it!
That one guy came into server with "now its about to get fun" and its more than obvious that he has as soft aim, AT LEAST a constant UAV, or wallhack.
Broadcast he went 22-2 within about 3 minutes of the map starting.

Now aside from his OBVIOUS hacking issue, if someone calls out someone as a hacker and they (the "hacker") proceed to talk S* and be a general deucebag, you should also address that as well. Changing his name to cALM DOWN? C'mon.... you're really going to leave than unaddressed?!
 I didnt see a word from you, and neither did you go to spectate your problem player.

As someone who uses this server as my go to, having been a full rights admin myself, and other obvious inter clan stuff from way back in the day, I'd expect more from an FH Admin. OR if you dont have banning rights, why not let the server know?! IDK

I left the server with a "deal with your hacker and then I'll come back to the server, Fuck this." No im not sorry I swore on server. Shoot, least I got a warning.

Not trying to be a dick. Not trying to tell you how to do your job. But C'mon.... maintaining server quality on ANY level, IS the number one job of ANY admin no matter what B3 privillages you posses.....

[{FH}spankeem]

Hey Inheritor thanks for your feedback. 

I don’t know who was on at the time so can’t comment on the actions of the admin online at the time.  I will take a look when I get home later today and provide additional feedback regarding that.

In FH we don’t assume that someone is hacking just because of their KDR.  We assume that players are innocent until they are proven guilty.  As such we have a number of high quality players who enjoy the environment because we don’t ban them out of hand.

I myself have come online (in tags and alias) and spectated players who have a high KDR and had my fears allayed by the players good understanding of the map, sound and uav.  Some people just get it – I don’t and fail miserably. 

Whilst we try to stay on top of poor behaviour and cheating, we also rely on players like yourself to point out where someone is breaking the rules and to assist us in catching cheats.  You would have noticed that upon someone commenting on “hacking” that the auto response set up on the server is that players can take and submit a demo for review. A lot of our guests do this much to their credit and you are welcome to submit demos for review. 

Anyways I’ll provide some more feedback in about 5 hours when I get home from work.  I can’t access echelon on the job.

[[FTF] Inheritor]

Sounds good here.
Yes I agree fully on the KDR spread, I myself have had massive KDR spread on certain maps on a good day. There was just, other factors.
And for the sake of not looking more like a jerk than i already did, is why i left the admins name out of the post.

Thank you

[|FH|Jock Ych]

Inheritor,

Thanks for stopping by the forum.  I too, will encourage you to submit demos anytime you feel there is a hacker on our server.  It appears the player, that one guy, actually asked you to "Please don't accuse but record and submit demo to our forum", during the in game chat multiple times.

I did a review of the chat logs and there was quite a bit going on there that causes some concern.  Using language and homophobic slurs is not allowed and it seems this player did nothing in chat to put others down.  Yet, he was called names and accused multiple times.

The player in question is known by FH and has been "vetted".  In fact, he is a member of FH -- {FH}Godlike.  We have several very skilled players (I will remind you that many FH members had been banned "for hacks" on 8th -- including myself multiple times -- , even before the blanket ban was eventually put in place against FH members.)

We are not unwilling to look at evidence when submitted, even of our own members.  We have removed a couple members over the years that we discovered were hacking.  In this case, without a demo, we are unable to respond.  I will say that based on the chat logs, he did nothing wrong or abusive in his chat.  Others were abusive toward him, however.

I will leave you will this link to an over the shoulder demo of Godlike's play for you to review.  You will see he is indeed quite experienced and skilled at this game we all love so much:    http://fhclan.com/forum/index.php?topic=3025.0

Inheritor, I'm glad you enjoy our server and hope to see you in game.  Also, please do feel free to submit demos of suspected hackers and post on forum, but limit accusations in game.

Thanks,
Jock

[|FH|Jock Ych]

I am at work and can't get in game but I can see chat logs....

I see you, inheritor, are continuing to accuse (as are a couple others) known skilled players on our FH server.

Lord187 is a long time regular.  He is not a hacker, but rather a very skilled player. 

I am going to ask that you stop accusing players in game of hacks.  Again, if you suspect a player,  please record a demo and submit.

Here is the chat log to which I am referring here below (start and bottom and work back up):

90093   Lord 187   ALL   that would have been a bad admin call   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:31:09)
2290092   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   you would have had my ban months ago   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:30:54)
2290091   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   trust me, i know   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:30:35)
2290090   GG-Blooddonr   ALL   lol ow   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:30:25)
2290089   Lord 187   ALL   looks like you can't tell.   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:30:22)
2290088   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   i played this game for years and recognise lame clowns like you in a few heartbeats   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:30:06)
2290087   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   Jma let me know if your gunna post   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:59)
2290086   Lord 187   ALL   kk buddy   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:50)
2290085   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   youre a joke to me   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:44)
2290084   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   you mean you had the benefits of the doubts?   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:37)
2290083   Lord 187   ALL   ive been cleared many times, but you can do so again   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:19)
2290082   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   i am   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:06)
2290081   Lord 187   ALL   put it up on the site   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:05)
2290080   Lord 187   ALL   record me then   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:29:00)
2290079   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   NO one is that consistent with down site kills....   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:55)
2290078   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   i piss clowns like you straight in their skull   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:55)
2290077   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   the socalled skilled newbies   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:44)
2290076   Lord 187   ALL   no idea what you are talking about   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:40)
2290075   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   just abother hackin promodder   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:34)
2290074   Lord 187   ALL   This is the only name i use   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:30)
2290073   GG-Blooddonr   ALL   n1   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:26)
2290072   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   i know what i see, ive seen it before, ive seen you before, under different names   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:21)
2290071   Lord 187   ALL   You can go to that website. record my gameplay, see what the mods think   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:28:16)
2290070   Lord 187   ALL   That's some charged commentary there, throwing accusations around and all.   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:27:58)
2290069   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   not unless their in alias i dont think so   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:27:41)
2290068   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   are there admins present to kick this skilled newby?   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:27:28)
2290067   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   skilled newbies i call these clowns   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:26:52)
2290066   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   i bet its this same 'skilled' promodding asswhole that sits here many times   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:26:27)
2290065   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   there hasnt been one time he hasnt aimed down site he hasnt killed someone   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:26:26)
2290064   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   the mild wallhack: just wayfinfing   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:25:45)
2290063   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   ya   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:25:29)
2290062   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   looking straigh in the right direction   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:25:23)
2290061   J'Maintiendrai   ALL   we know   Mon, 02/22/16 (20:25:00)
2290060   [FTF] Inheritor   ALL   Well Lord is full of SH*

[{FH}Striker]

Nice work Jock, point well made.
Godlike you are to be complimented on maintaining your cool and not allowing your emotions to prevail.. Well Done.

[Godlike]

Nice work Jock, point well made.
Godlike you are to be complimented on maintaining your cool and not allowing your emotions to prevail.. Well Done.

Was about to take the reigns on this one, but I love watching Jock work ;)

See you ingame, Inheritor.

[Godlike]

I also just wanted to say, for the record, we have administration online spectating at almost any single point in time.

Just because you can't see us, doesn't mean we can't see you.

We are constantly keeping tabs on recurring players, habitual rule breakers, and new players who do exceptionally well. We can attach notes to an individual's GUID, and leave comments for visiting administration on what to watch for with this specific player.

All I'm trying to say, is that although we aren't paid to do this, every administration here loves the game and loves his job. We take great care of our server, and we are VERY mindful of the behaviour that happens in-server.