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Title: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Taka on April 01, 2014, 11:39:27 am
just now. Darkfriar kicked me again.

Situation
1. terminator started talking about me
    "I will go. can not play with spawn watcher tka"
    tka is me.
2. i replied "if you said you go, just go"
3. terminator said "~~~~ taka, busterd"
4. I asked dark to stop this. and put few comment
5. terminator told me bad word again.
6. Dark mute me.
    he only gave punishment only me. not with terminator.
7 dark kicked me.

maybe I also said not good word.
could admins check chat history on crash around 23;15 SGT?

and Could you explain why I only muted?

Best regards,
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Taka on April 01, 2014, 10:09:18 pm
Dark Frair,


as you know, you and terminator won! congrats!
I know you and termini have some good relation.
and i also know you are person who keep your small vanity. so if you understand some one push you, you really want to save yourself.
you are like a fake minister, a clergyman.

I say again. I respect other admin, but I do not respect Dark Frair as admin.
you need to learn how to make decision.
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Apoc on April 01, 2014, 11:55:01 pm
Been reading your posts there TAKA and well you try to lead us to believe your hard done by :( this maybe so from your eyes but lets call a spade a spade here and look at some HARD facts..  1 , i have many times spec'd you spawn camping ( 2 ) i have many times seen you place clays on spawn points. ( 3 ) i many times have seen you camp in a location where there has been no exit from a spawn. ( 4 ) i many times have seen you swear at other guests and admins.

please find the below chat log on the way you spoke to an admin ..

725949    ALL    opps.. i missed your message. could you tell me again?>    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:51)
725947    ALL    just play terminator    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:48)
725945    ALL    i respect admin. but i do not respect dark as admin    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:47)
725944    ALL    hello again!    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:46)
725942    ALL    you can kick. admin    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:46)
725940    ALL    whatever    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:45)
725922    ALL    fuck you dark!    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:31)
725919    ALL    dark. you can not be friend.    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:30)

oooo  and lets look at your past kicks etc etc while we are here ..

61370
   TempBan    Tue, 01/04/14 (16:45)    5 days    Sun, 06/04/14 (16:48)    constant issues in server with term and cursing out an admin
(Echelon: Titty Twister [3])    B3   
61365
   Kick    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:46)       (Kick Only)    disrespecting an Admin
   {FH}DarkFriar   
61364
   Kick    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:32)       (Kick Only)    disrespect for a admin
   {FH}DarkFriar   
61363
   Warning    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:31)    6 hours    Tue, 01/04/14 (17:31)    Rule #6: Please refrain from excessive cursing
fuck you dark!    B3   
61362
   Kick    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:31)       (Kick Only)    disrespect for an Admin
   {FH}DarkFriar   
61009
   Warning    Tue, 25/03/14 (14:02)    6 hours    Tue, 25/03/14 (20:02)    Rule #6: Please refrain from excessive cursing
fuck    B3   
61008
   Kick    Tue, 25/03/14 (14:00)       (Kick Only)    disrespecting Admin
   {FH}DarkFriar   
58687
   Warning    Sun, 23/02/14 (11:57)    6 hours    Sun, 23/02/14 (17:57)    Rule #6: Please refrain from excessive cursing
fuck you    B3   
54842
   Warning    Mon, 06/01/14 (06:49)    6 hours    Mon, 06/01/14 (12:49)    Rule #6: Please refrain from excessive cursing
Leopold Fuckel partizan    B3   
54329
   Warning    Mon, 30/12/13 (06:29)    1 hour    Mon, 30/12/13 (07:29)    No spawn camping
   New Addiction   
53225
   Warning    Sun, 15/12/13 (02:31)    2 hours    De-activated    Rule #9: Spawn CAMPING of any form is not allowed, including spawn clays
   Bill Clinton   
48270
   Warning    Sat, 21/09/13 (13:20)    6 hours    Sat, 21/09/13 (19:20)    Please don't use profanity
already eat. you eat your shit    B3   
39388
   Warning    Sat, 25/05/13 (14:04)    1 day    Sun, 26/05/13 (14:04)    Please don't use profanity
jake shit    B3   
35065
   Warning    Tue, 26/03/13 (12:39)    3 hours    Tue, 26/03/13 (15:39)    Rule #11: Spawn CAMPING of any form is not allowed, including spawn clays
   seven-charlie   
25643
   Warning    Wed, 30/01/13 (11:04)    3 hours    Wed, 30/01/13 (14:04)    Rule #11: Spawn CAMPING of any form is not allowed, including spawn clays
   {FH}SwampDaddy   
20749
   Warning    Mon, 07/01/13 (11:14)    3 hours    Mon, 07/01/13 (14:14)    Rule #11: Spawn CAMPING of any form is not allowed, including spawn clays
   {FH}mitsurugi   
19424
   Warning    Mon, 31/12/12 (07:04)    1 hour    Mon, 31/12/12 (08:04)    no spawn camping
   {FH}Apoc   
19423
   Warning    Mon, 31/12/12 (07:03)    1 hour    Mon, 31/12/12 (08:03)    NO spawn trolling
   {FH}Apoc   
18001
   Warning    Mon, 24/12/12 (10:12)    3 hours    Mon, 24/12/12 (13:12)    Rule #11: Spawn CAMPING of any form is not allowed, including spawn clays
   {FH}deadskulz   
11345
   Warning    Sat, 24/11/12 (12:18)    1 hour    Sat, 24/11/12 (13:18)    no spawn camping here !
   {FH}Dr3aM Evil

You may not think your a spawn camper / troll / foul mouth / disrespectful to others have a good read of the above..  and if your not sure on what spawn camping etc etc is -------------> Spawn camping

Spawn camping involves camping or guarding the position of the own spawn on the map. Although usually not expressly against the rules, spawn camping is frequently considered poor form and some servers will officially enforce a no-spawn-camping rule. In some cases however, it is unavoidable and players simply have to adapt their strategy to survive the spawn campers. Exceptions may include pursuing a player who is carrying a critical objective into their own spawn for support, as may occur during Capture the Flag games.

Some games have spawn protection systems, giving newly spawned players invulnerability, or respawning them in an area close to the spawn. Another mechanism employed in games is 'point spawning', in which a player is spawned near a teammate and not at a specific location. The Battlefield series uses such a scheme. This scheme is not without its disadvantages however because spawning next to a teammate who is in the middle of combat can be problematic.

Some objective-based games use fixed spawns defended by, for example, automated turrets to help spawn camping. Sometimes players camp at spawn points just to kill the players who run by there, this is known as 'spawnkilling' and is particularly performed against new and inexperienced players. Players who do this are likely to be targeted by the players who killed them.
Spawn trapping

Spawn trapping is the act of camping in an advantageous position in the vicinity of an enemies spawn and killing them as soon as they leave the spawn, or their spawn protection runs out. Base trapping can also be used to describe this act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camping_(gaming) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camping_(gaming))  just scroll down

Taka when your NOT doin your usual stuff and actually gaming your quite a good player :) But please dont be under any illusion that your hard done by. I will from this point on will record your game play and hand in demos on a regular basis..

thankyou
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Taka on April 02, 2014, 01:35:17 am
Apoc.

I thought FH and I are already done. but you answered. so I will answer.

and I expected you will appear on this board. i know you do not like me also. haha
and you try to make the problem direction change and make the problem to more widely. If like this guy in the conversation, problem never solved and getting bigger.
So maybe I use not good sentence for my reply. I am human with emotion. so try to take only necessary word I try to say pls.

> 1 , i have many times spec'd you spawn camping

ans.
1. I do not play when you are online.
2. Yes, you warn me my play is SC. But no other Admin said that. and I think I stopped it.

most important thing is I do not talk about my play style. I talk about terminator and DarkFriar attitude.
If FH want to warn or kick me correctly, Admin should spec and warn or kick. but this time, Admin never warn me and spec me about Spawn camp.
You mislead the problem. and change the point of problem.
DarkFrair kicked me because he thought I disrespect him.
Not talking about SC and others.
Apoc you are making the problem confuse.
Admin should separately think
1. Terminator curse word issue
2. Taka SC or others problem.
you messed up both.
Like this guy like you can not be admin.


>( 2 ) i have many times seen you place clays on spawn points.

for spawn clay. I did not. you are liar.

and this is same, not link to this problem.

> ( 3 ) i many times have seen you camp in a location where there has been no exit from a spawn.

I have realised Apoc, you have difference point of view about SC and other illegal issue.
So I quit to play with you and rely on other admin checking me. how you can watch me?


>( 4 ) i many times have seen you swear at other guests and admins.

I never do this before some one started doing swear.
this is too much that you tell lie. I think you are one of the cancer of this server.


>725949    ALL    opps.. i missed your message. could you tell me again?>    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:51)
>725947    ALL    just play terminator    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:48)
>725945    ALL    i respect admin. but i do not respect dark as admin    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:47)
>725944    ALL    hello again!    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:46)
>725942    ALL    you can kick. admin    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:46)
>725940    ALL    whatever    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:45)
>725922    ALL    fuck you dark!    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:31)
>725919    ALL    dark. you can not be friend.    Tue, 01/04/14 (11:30)
>oooo  and lets look at your past kicks etc etc while we are here ..

Yes. because he kicked me only as I said. and last time he also kicked me only. he did not put any punishment to terminator.
under this situation,  admin is not perfect person and i also. why I could not get angry?
Admin is not a dictator. but when i listen what I said you want to make your own dictatorship.
Yes. you can. this is your server. your world.
So I said I will never play on this server.
You should not reply it like that. just leave me alone and I would never posted.
and also I believe only few person understand what going on here.

another advise is do not cut few conversation you want.
yes. you can control if you cut and paste only these chat without history.
you need to realise like this way make conspiracy you did.


>You may not think your a spawn camper / troll / foul mouth / disrespectful to others have a good read of the above..  and if your not sure on what spawn camping etc etc is ------------->
>Spawn camping

last warning is last Dec. and some warning is because admin misunderstand. after I explain he understand.
and these SC warning are warning only. If i keep doing that, I should get kicked already.
I love this server. and I am crazy to play it. I play almost everyday!  you can check it. and only these warning i have got is I think
and also I asked admin when I posted these to spec me and warn me. because terminator keep saying hacker, SC. then i believe admin check me.
but admin never do this and leave terminator free.
then how admin, you, can say that?

and this is not related this problem. but I think you want to start this issue. so i also tell you my opinion.
you explain what SC and others are. thank you for writing long explanation. I read all.
but I think as you realised. these are very difficult to define in actual game play. if all of player is runner and never stop, this will be easier.
and I also know you are one of stoic rule keeper.
maybe only way how everyone can learn what SC and other are is to take video and show them. that word you wrote is not enough to define what they are.
Why I said that is some admins do similar play as me. I think it is impossible to manage with your level of the definition. It is too strong definition
So i can advise to you how mange these.
1. SC: stay exactly same place and point to spawn point. and he can see other spawn and shoot.
2. trolling: a. the player move and watch few spawn points periodically.
                b. the player saw someone spawn and shoot.
                If the player arrived place to be able to watch spawn point, and spawner already start moving. the player can kill the spawner. because the spawner already move and there is enough time to kill the player. it should not be trolling.

If I said above, I know it is very difficult to imagine. only can show in real game play.
but If all of player must follow your definition, it means this server do not allow camp.
I used to stay one house and keep moving in the house. I never stay one point like laid down the point. and when I move, I can see many spawn point same as runner.
if you say this is trolling, anyway, I am not person can play on this server and leave.
but you need to realise differences between what you want to make player keep and the game system.
game system do not allow your stoic definition. so no choice, you need to change your definition or remove all camper.
I am sure SC and trolling with your definition never disappear and most problem is admin never released discussing what is SC and trolling and never converge the definition within admins.
 

>Taka when your NOT doin your usual stuff and actually gaming your quite a good player :) But please dont be under any illusion that your hard done by. I will from this point on will record
>your game play and hand in demos on a regular basis..

I said i will not play on this server anymore.(I do not know. 1 year later come back? bcs i like this server. but you can perm ban also)
you are confused. which story you want to? terminator problem or sc problem??
SC problem:  very simple. admin watch and if i guilty, just warn as i said few days ago post.
Terminator problem: I do not allow and do not understand terminator can start and say curse word. but not me. 
he started every time as i said too many time. if he do not do this, my word problem is never happen.
and All of admin in this server, decided to ban only me. I understand this is same situation black and white, asian and european, minority and majority.

I already give up Admins understand this. but last explanation as example....
- 8 years kids keep continue tell you curse word or word he do not authorised.
- he never stop it over HALF YEAR.
- you can not talk to him face to face.
- many person watch what he said. maybe someone misunderstand what you are.
- he watch your life from you can not see. and keep saying.

he keep doing HALF YEAR. can you keep ignore it??
Why you can leave this situation free as admin??
 
what you did is
to save terminator who started this problem and you added another problem convince with this and kicked me.

I understood I and you live in another ethics, moral, point of view. and I never allow someone keep continue curse word to me.
and this server allow him to do it.
so I start to become hate this server.

thats all.

Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Apoc on April 02, 2014, 01:39:20 am
like i said above taka your a rly good player when you want to be :) the terminator thing i would just let your Bullets do the talking ;) there are many many many times gaming when ppl will get on your nerves best thing to do is just shoot the hell outa them.  just choose your words carefully esp at the ppl that are trying to help you guys out.  and believe me if i see any 1 swear at any 1 else they will be asked to stop. if you like i can have a chat with terminator and ask him to just leave you alone and play his own game. you play quite a bit and thats awesome :) we will do what we can to keep our guests happy and gaming....   :gaming  your always welcome on the servers :) if some1 is giving you a hard time just say it to the admin on line @ the time....  or jump into out tdm server / promod server i will be more than happy to game on with you :)

Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: |FH|Jock Ych on April 02, 2014, 02:08:05 am
This has gone on too long, and I don't see Taka being rational.  I'll use Taka's style of "listing" to give reasons why he is perm banned from servers and forum:
1.  Repeated disrespect to Admin
2.  A boatload of warnings for multiple issues on our servers
3.  He just won't let the Term situation go and now he has added Friar to his obsession
4.  He requested to be perm banned.

Done, over and out.  He moves on and he takes his drama with him.

The End.
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: ZoZo666 on April 02, 2014, 02:22:41 pm
Way to long to read....lol
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: {FH}PlatoonLeader on April 02, 2014, 06:32:19 pm
Way to long to read....lol

Yep... ZZZZZZZZ  Reading a bus schedule is more fun that Takas posts. 
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: {FH}PlatoonLeader on April 02, 2014, 06:33:09 pm
I must add. I like Dark Friar as an admin  :quagmire:
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: MAO on April 03, 2014, 11:58:58 am
Yeah, i hopped in when the issue becoming hotter, all what i know the problem seems solved. And quite amazing to know they got such history between each other. Like rob said we should treat guest well and happy, without guest the FH will not be popular.
Title: Re: about dark friar as admin
Post by: Apoc on April 03, 2014, 03:45:02 pm
This has gone on too long, and I don't see Taka being rational.  I'll use Taka's style of "listing" to give reasons why he is perm banned from servers and forum:
1.  Repeated disrespect to Admin
2.  A boatload of warnings for multiple issues on our servers
3.  He just won't let the Term situation go and now he has added Friar to his obsession
4.  He requested to be perm banned.

Done, over and out.  He moves on and he takes his drama with him.

The End.
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