Forgotten Heroes
Call of Duty 4 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rumblefish on June 26, 2014, 12:33:32 am
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Right, so there was a discussion amongst players/admins about a potentially offensive name in server last night (cuntsucker). I said I'd make a thread and see if this was an acceptable/unacceptable name. Let the discussion begin. Also, to Rob or Pear or anyone else higher than me, if I'm beating a dead horse here (I know there's been posts on this subject in the past) feel free to lock the thread.
Thanks,
'Fish
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Love playing in your servers. My preference is no swearing, and no offensive names, always has been. But then again, it's not my server. Seeing players with names like cuntsucker and bitchess I believe is very distasteful, not good for younger players to see, and offensive to women. Was very disappointed when bringing these names to the attention of the only admin in the server....Rumblefish, and asking whether or not they should get warnings to change their names....just to hear that he didn't find the names offensive and wasn't going to kick for them. I decided to take a break, as I was getting too upset, and another player in the server also was commenting that he was getting ready to rage quit over the offensive names.
Thanks for all the game....and tolerating me all of this time.
BooYah!!!
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BooYah!!!
You are a great guest/regular on our server. Thanks for stopping in to share your thoughts. It is tough to please everyone all the time. This is an issue we have and continue to discuss. Sometimes it's tough to draw a line that seems not too strict (like some other servers) but also not anything goes. What is offensive to one person may not be that offensive to others. We clearly will not allow anything racist and the big bad obvious ones. Some of these "creative" names are debatable. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
See you in game!
:jock
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it's not my style, but not my game either. If a player wants to call himself dog shit then who am I to tell him to change their name. Just my opinion, unless it's racism then I don't care if they call themselves dog dick for a name. I'd just call them dick for short! BUHAHAHAH I mean what standard are we trying to set, is bullocks a bad name? What about toolbag?
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This is exactly one of the reasons I left, the names that are allowed are disgusting, I don't care what generation or age you are. This started when Kitty came into the clan and when I questioned it she told me this is a term of endearment when you like or love someone, LMAO In real life if someone called my wife a cunt or a bitch they would be in the hospital. On the server it is unacceptable, even the {8th} doesn't allow it. If this is allowed just to fill the server its pathetic. Gunny will be banned now, lol.
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FH tries to be most unlike the 8th as possible. This did not start when I came into the clan, because I was in it before you. The decision was not made by me - but the heads of the clan to allow the word and other words. The server may have younger kids on it - but they hear worse in school. If you don't want to face reality that is fine. I don't appreciate being blamed for something you are on a crusade for. I don't make the rules. The situation you are speaking of was a joke with a friend of mine and he doesn't even play anymore.
Another point - you have to be 17 to purchase this game
ANOTHER POINT - we want to be a relaxed clan and you want to kick someone for having cunt in their name if they are doing absolutely nothing wrong to the server.. what is the point? How it is offending you? Are you looking at the screen constantly 'omg he has the word cunt in his name' ... my apologies but grow up if that offends you. He is not calling anyone any name directly and if he did he would be kicked. This is gaming and it is about fun - we are not here to be nazis - LIKE THE 8th. If you want FH to be like the 8th - my suggestion : GO JOIN THE 8TH
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FUNNY How a lot of people don't agree with you !! :95801977:
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Another point to be made that is ironic... this is coming from a member named GUNNY that was DEMOTED for talking shit to guests on the server.
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I also don't leave a clan I am dedicated to because of a few things I disagree with. I am mature enough to stay and know I cannot change those things and just relax and deal with it. I do not wish to argue and as I said I do not make these decisions - I said my words and please do not bring me into it again. G'day :darkfriar
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LOOOOL LMAO! :grouphug: :moon :Toilet:
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Lets not let this turn into a slaging match. Every1 is different and have there thoughts and opinions on stuff. No 1 is right or wrong we are all here cos we like gaming and are friends. Gawk think how boring it would be if every1 thought the same. Every 1 is entitled to there opinion etc. there is no blame game it's just a game at the end of the day. Make luvvvvv not war.....
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You're right Apoc everyone knows the truth, so let it go.
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I'm sry I'm on my ipad with crappy wifi I see your replies like 2 min after you post and in that time there are more posts. It's not a shit sturing topic nor is it / or should it be a pointing the finger topic. There is just no need for that. Like kit said youngsters hear worse in school and out and about. I don't like the word but if its doing no harm and it's not used directly at some 1 then meh.
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FH tries to be most unlike the 8th as possible. This did not start when I came into the clan, because I was in it before you. The decision was not made by me - but the heads of the clan to allow the word and other words. The server may have younger kids on it - but they hear worse in school. If you don't want to face reality that is fine. I don't appreciate being blamed for something you are on a crusade for. I don't make the rules. The situation you are speaking of was a joke with a friend of mine and he doesn't even play anymore.
Another point - you have to be 17 to purchase this game
ANOTHER POINT - we want to be a relaxed clan and you want to kick someone for having cunt in their name if they are doing absolutely nothing wrong to the server.. what is the point? How it is offending you? Are you looking at the screen constantly 'omg he has the word cunt in his name' ... my apologies but grow up if that offends you. He is not calling anyone any name directly and if he did he would be kicked. This is gaming and it is about fun - we are not here to be nazis - LIKE THE 8th. If you want FH to be like the 8th - my suggestion : GO JOIN THE 8TH
Well said and 8th can die for all I care. Worse clan of retards on the net imo. Clearly there's some animosity here clearly and each individual has their own taste.
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To answer the original poster on this thread , Rumblefish, general rule of thumb is that if the bot doesn't warn them for their name or language , then we let it go, they ofcourse can not be insulting or homophobic\racists. If you are in server and you find something offensive, you can ofcourse ask the guest to change his name but if he's not breaking any rules then there is no need to warn him. (That's for FFA)
As for the rest of the drama from above , I have no intentions of getting into an argument with former members , you decided you didn't like the direction of the clan and you left, that's that.
If you had issues with anything , you could've easily started a clan vote or brought it up on the forums as an admin, any clan member is allowed to do this. The former members who just left did not do this and as guests you no longer have any say in FH policy. You wanted us to be stricter on the guests but disagreed with us being "strict" with our own admins (hardly ever used 3 strike policy) , I'm sorry that you feel that way, I think it's best that we all just move on.
I will say this, if there are any more issues or fights I will just remove all access to whoever causes it.
There's also no need for FH to be compared to other clans or servers.
Ps sorry for song typos I'm on my phone from work, I am locking this thread and not allowing any more posts in it.
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Obviously, there are differing points of view. I can accept that. Let's not get in a pissing match.
Let me clarify a few things though...
1) If someone personally attacks (through language) another person they can be warned, temp banned, or perm banned. Intent is key here. If it done as friendly bantering/joking and it doesn't involve the biggie words we have decided to keep off the server, then it is acceptable. If it is done in anger or personal attack, there are consequences. As a matter of fact, if a personal attack happens that doesn't involve swear words, there are consequences.
2) 8th is very strict, to the point it is a total joke. We are very happy to be a much different style of clan than them.
3) It is hard to please all the people, all the time.
4) It seems to me that the questionable language is not a daily problem on the server. It happens a few times a week, perhaps.
5) There are several names that could get debated and it is difficult to draw a clear rule. For example, if you were going to establish a rule with no swear words at all which of these would be allowed and which wouldn't? Examples: penisbreath, pinktorpedo, buttsniffer, Rod Rider, Bigboobs, MyBiaches, Vagenis, LickmyLovePump, Slutslammer Sorry, if I just offended anyone with those names. But do you see the problem? Where do you draw the line...it is difficult in my opinion. Even if I can draw MY line about those names, it may not be universally seen the same way by very respectable fellow clan mates.
Finally, I'd like to say in all things try to have patience and flexability. You may not agree with EVERY name allowed or EVERY name not allowed. You may not be happy with EVERY decision leaders make. You may not be happy with EVERY rule in FH. But overall, I can't think of a better maintained server and forum, and fun group of gamers on COD4. I'm happy to be here, even when I haven't agreed with EVERY decision made.