Forgotten Heroes
Call of Duty 4 => Ban Appeals => Topic started by: vagenis on July 22, 2014, 03:27:56 pm
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I just wanna know why.
time was around 4:02 PM
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You were banned by {FH}Apoc for "wallhack", he will respond shortly with a demo
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HI Vagenis cheers for stopping by. last night i was in spec for over an hour watching your game play, and here are the things i noticed
1. you look to me to be using a wallhack or have constant UAV
2. your hit reg is way off by this i mean you fire missing the target but always seem to get the kill. which looks like your using something to auto correct onto hitboxes, sorta like roccat
3. you move well but the instant snap turns and prefire onto targets that are there and targers that are yet to be there is suspect
4. you trace players through walls and use wallbangs to to make it look like your not tracing.
i have spent quiet a bit of time watching demos and in spec, and on the odd time won a game or 2 but i have to call it how i see it and i believe your using a game assist something like Roccat or HelioS-Framework-v3.0
sry vagenis i have to call it how i see it.
Demos: http://www.mediafire.com/download/xb45r4sgzu6b56e/vaghax.dm_1 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/xb45r4sgzu6b56e/vaghax.dm_1)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j29d59o1qxhqb01/vaghax1.1.dm_1 (http://www.mediafire.com/download/j29d59o1qxhqb01/vaghax1.1.dm_1)
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Vagenis,
I know you said this is not an appeal. However, if you are indeed innocent, I encourage you to appeal with your response to the demo/examples. I'll say this, that you are a good player either way, which has made it very difficult for our admin team to all come to the same conclusion or easily identify a specific hack (if any). We want FH to be a place where all legit players are welcome. We have no desire to ban good legit players.
If you are interested or able to play a round and externally record yourself playing where we can see your monitor clearly and your keyboard/mouse, that could really clear things up. It may not be worth it to you, but if it is, and you are playing the same that we've seen in game, it would likely put an end to this discussion.
Jock
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Vagenis,
I know you said this is not an appeal. However, if you are indeed innocent, I encourage you to appeal with your response to the demo/examples. I'll say this, that you are a good player either way, which has made it very difficult for our admin team to all come to the same conclusion or easily identify a specific hack (if any). We want FH to be a place where all legit players are welcome. We have no desire to ban good legit players.
If you are interested or able to play a round and externally record yourself playing where we can see your monitor clearly and your keyboard/mouse, that could really clear things up. It may not be worth it to you, but if it is, and you are playing the same that we've seen in game, it would likely put an end to this discussion.
Jock
I could Not Agree more with jocks post...
ty Jock
COW stick to your own topic thank you.
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1. It looks like I'm using wh/unlimited uav. A lot of pre-fire. get uav fast, and sound whoring over 9000. knowing where people like to sit.
2. My hit registration is way off because im playing with a ping of 220. have you seen me have terrible hit detection when the person im shooting at is not moving?
im sure if you spend enough time spectating other people with similar ping, you will see the same kind of hit registration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybAT12i0ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybAT12i0ss) CoD4 is not perfect. a bit extreme but you get the point.
3. my movements are alright, kinda terrible at times. snap aiming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1jqeBc2Zs&list=UUeKTMsGwOVDhzlBM7rXJVTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1jqeBc2Zs&list=UUeKTMsGwOVDhzlBM7rXJVTQ) i play that too much.
4. tracing players through the wall. I would need to see that for myself, like at what times, I could upload both of the submitted demos to youtube and you could tell me at what point im doing this.
a game assist, never even heard about that, and i just read about the ban on frozenrunner. if im not mistaken he was also playing with quite high ping.
Lucky me, i won a game. as you have probably noticed im hardly on the server anymore. and im quite shit because of that.
I dont know if frozen has been banned before or not, but i suppose he wasnt bothered with all this bullshit, i mean there are other servers out there :p
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1. It looks like I'm using wh/unlimited uav. A lot of pre-fire. get uav fast, and sound whoring over 9000. knowing where people like to sit.
2. My hit registration is way off because im playing with a ping of 220. have you seen me have terrible hit detection when the person im shooting at is not moving?
im sure if you spend enough time spectating other people with similar ping, you will see the same kind of hit registration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybAT12i0ss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybAT12i0ss) CoD4 is not perfect. a bit extreme but you get the point.
3. my movements are alright, kinda terrible at times. snap aiming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1jqeBc2Zs&list=UUeKTMsGwOVDhzlBM7rXJVTQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj1jqeBc2Zs&list=UUeKTMsGwOVDhzlBM7rXJVTQ) i play that too much.
4. tracing players through the wall. I would need to see that for myself, like at what times, I could upload both of the submitted demos to youtube and you could tell me at what point im doing this.
a game assist, never even heard about that, and i just read about the ban on frozenrunner. if im not mistaken he was also playing with quite high ping.
Lucky me, i won a game. as you have probably noticed im hardly on the server anymore. and im quite shit because of that.
I dont know if frozen has been banned before or not, but i suppose he wasnt bothered with all this bullshit, i mean there are other servers out there :p
Vag,
First off welcome back, second, as for UAVing the demos don't show this to be evident at all. While you do call them, you really don't use them that often. I know we have over 20 demo's of you and a lot the times you don?t really need UAV. As for sound whoring I've got a great head set too, but I'm not able to pint point a player position based of sound. However, you're saying you can? I know it can give if you an idea where they might be. Most players on our server use dead silence, while you're totally not silence. You can hear them but they have to be close. So what do you have that we don?t' Over 9000 hz?
As for you hit registration please don't waste our time, you play with a 250+ ping, yet able to out gun, shot and register more shots then I do with a 60 ping. Please explain this magic. Hell you get better hit reg then most players in the U.S. so what magic sound, mouse, or video trick excuse do you have for that?
Yes we have spent a ton of time specing a lot of player, yet none seem to have the registration of you. Apoc is a fine example of this he's in Aussie. While at times, he's gets some great shots he also misses a ton. Yet, you not so much so the question is what you have that others don?t.
So my question on this video did you just pre aim at the barrier for fun or habbit did you know? You can't see the player until he crosses yet you were ready for him.... Nice hit reg too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQZGzAe5Wcw&list=UUXGiUiW7szimP2IYfwj2e3g&index=3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQZGzAe5Wcw&list=UUXGiUiW7szimP2IYfwj2e3g&index=3)
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I have most likely recorded every single demo that you guys have spectated me, I record every single game, sometimes i forget, like that map on citystreet. I dont have that one.
and I always use my uav.
I dont have a 250+ ping, i have 220. theres nothing else than CoD4 using internet when i play, so the lag is just because of the distance.
9000 was a joke.
spectating people doesnt always show accurate hit registration, i can upload some demo for you guys, the one you posted on youtube at least, and the one on crash, same as apoc posted but form my view.
I can also record my screen if thats necessary.
im curious what fps do you play on cryptocosis?
also some specs:
BenQ XL2410T monitor 120HZ. I play in 1080P with 250 fps.
GPU: http://puu.sh/ao9ua/bd454f5147.png (http://puu.sh/ao9ua/bd454f5147.png)
CPU is AMD 1090T six core.
Mouse. steelseries Rival.
Keyboard: zowie celeritas.
Headset: steelseries v2 or something.
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Well i have watched the demo you uploaded vagenis and due to to the fact it shows you calling uav i am removing the ban placed on you. i would like to thank you for your uploaded demo and hope you will accept my apology for the ban being placed and understand why it was placed in the first place. please keep recording your game play as it helps 100% when issues like this arise.
Also thank you for taking the time to come to the forums and helping us understand some of your game play, the ban will be removed asap
cheers {FH}Apoc
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so i just watched a demo i recorded today. i joined late in the game, and our team had uav. but on my demo it doesnt show the uav, and it doesnt show the first uav that i called in either. but it shows the other ones.
Demos are so buggy.
Thanks Apoc.
EDIT:
I recorded a gameplay with 70 ping where i dont have weird hit detection. its just because of lag and spectating bug.
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Wait, is this the German Vagenis?
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Steel series is mint